Curse

Tyla · Jun 10, 2008, 03:20 PM // 15:20

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Originally Posted by Th Fooster

well the issue to me is one of this:

what kind of loser imature smal minded person would even bother taking the time to actuly pull this scam? i mean really how hard is it to go farm your own
item? what ever it is, look it up and wiki tells you whaere it drops, what the monsters in the area... and thier skill bars even! so go farm it!

Want me to tell you why people do this? Because people are easy to exploit.

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as for weather or not pple are retarded, no they are not.

not every one has been playing guild wars for 3 years. some just got the game last week. that makes them a noob. not a retard.

No matter how long you've played this game, the point still stands. You shouldn't be falling for this if you actually take notice, which you should be doing anyway. Be it real life, in a game or on eBay.

Darkobra · Jun 10, 2008, 04:16 PM // 16:16

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Originally Posted by Yichi

We just need a little check box when you first create a character that says "I'm New" or for an account thats over 6 months old that says "I'm an idiot". You check this box and you are immune to doing anything without a warning box comming up that asks if thi is what you really want to do.

Problem solved.

I must have ticked that box in Factions then. "Do you really want to continue? Really? Really? REALLY?"

Maximumraver · Jun 10, 2008, 04:20 PM // 16:20

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Originally Posted by Darkobra

I must have ticked that box in Factions then. "Do you really want to continue? Really? Really? REALLY?"

Oh, that thing is ridiculously annoying.

Targren · Jun 10, 2008, 04:20 PM // 16:20

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Originally Posted by Tatile

Removing the Drop feature would be bad a change to me, I often end with just... stuff filling my inventory when I'm farming, vanq'ing or in a dungeon, I need to shift this 'stuff' to get better 'stuff' into my inventory (I travel with a fair amount of stuff as it is, don't really have the storage space for it).

There's a trash can on your bag-bar in the inventory screen for that, you know...

Tatile · Jun 10, 2008, 04:30 PM // 16:30

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Originally Posted by Targren

There's a trash can on your bag-bar in the inventory screen for that, you know...

You know what, I keep forgetting it's there. However I just find it easier to drop stuff as I keep all bags open when I'm out and about, and I can easily correct a mistake if I'm not paying that much attention.

I've had a few bad experiences with Mr. Trash Can.

zelgadissan · Jun 10, 2008, 07:29 PM // 19:29

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Originally Posted by Lykan

'Hi im the ecto inspector i need to inspect your ecto's'

I'm totally doing this later tonight. Obviously not going to actually do anything about it, just want to see what kinds of responses I get when I spam it in Kamadan. I'll be just like the "Want to buy accounts for storage Prophecies = 300k etc." guy!

RTSFirebat · Jun 10, 2008, 09:24 PM // 21:24

As I say to people at work regarding some of our more 'special' customers... "You can't fix stupid"

Commander Ryker · Jun 10, 2008, 09:24 PM // 21:24

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Originally Posted by -Lotus-

why? they didnt really do anything wrong. sure, its not the "right thing to do," but getting idiots to do wtupid thins is a part of life. they drop items of their own free will. no one makes them do it. if people are stupid enough to try and trade without the trade function they deserve to lose all of their items.

So, how long have you been scamming people? Are you proud of this? I don't know how anyone can take any pride in anything that they did not legitimately achieve.

HawkofStorms · Jun 11, 2008, 03:22 AM // 03:22

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Originally Posted by zelgadissan

I'm totally doing this later tonight. Obviously not going to actually do anything about it, just want to see what kinds of responses I get when I spam it in Kamadan. I'll be just like the "Want to buy accounts for storage Prophecies = 300k etc." guy!

Wait a miniute... that's not the ecto inspector.

Xx_Sorin_xX · Jun 11, 2008, 05:28 AM // 05:28

probably because same old trick, but new dumb people.

Targren · Jun 11, 2008, 03:47 PM // 15:47

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Originally Posted by Tatile

I've had a few bad experiences with Mr. Trash Can.

That I can understand... Sold a Radiant Insig to merchant instead of the demonic fang when playing at 4am. *facepalm*

Sometimes it's hard to remember that grown men don't cry...

Miss Puddles · Jun 11, 2008, 07:19 PM // 19:19

there is a pop-up confirming if we really want to trash an item, if we really want to accept a trade, if we really want to customize/dedicate an item, if we really want to do this and that...
why not one to confirm that we want to drop an item? even the trash pop-up says that you will lose this item forever or something to that effect.

Shayne Hawke · Jun 11, 2008, 10:52 PM // 22:52

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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

* Change it so that players must give explicit permission for another player to pick up their dropped item, and display a pop up notification asking the player whether they want to allow another player to pick up their dropped item(s).

This one, but also include a tick box that says "Don't ask again for this specific player." Limit that effect per zone.

If a player gets scammed past that, ignore it, because that's... Ugh. I can't even comprehend words to describe how silly that notion would be.

Hermos · Jun 12, 2008, 05:43 AM // 05:43

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Originally Posted by Lyphen

Natural Selection.

I want your babies. <3

Medion · Jun 12, 2008, 10:07 AM // 10:07

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Originally Posted by -Lotus-

why? they didnt really do anything wrong. sure, its not the "right thing to do," but getting idiots to do wtupid thins is a part of life. they drop items of their own free will. no one makes them do it. if people are stupid enough to try and trade without the trade function they deserve to lose all of their items.

they didnt really do anything wrong.
sure, its not the "right thing to do,"
Now I think you are talking about two different ways of looking at it? The technical one (is there anything about it in the EULA or does Anet officially do anything agains it) and the moral one (is the action of scamming someone something a 'perfect' person would do?).
Personally I prefer looking at things the second way as the first way is just an excuse why you can do it (much like people who through a loophole in the law aren't punished for commiting a crime (which isn't a crime because of the loophole)).

Free will...I think it was Sartre who said you always have a free will? Even if asked to pay money with a gun to your head, so by that logic: people who pay should be laughed at because they could also have chosen to be shot? Now I know this situation is entirely different but I just want to point out that you should watch out a little with saying such things (and I off course wanted to sound clever

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To the people laughing/pointing at those who fall for this scam. I think what you are doing is to be looked at as a 'punishment' to the person who fell for it. I also think the bible says:

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"He who is without sin among you, let him throw the first stone"

No, I'm not religious but this is true in a way. If you've never done anything stupid, go ahead and laugh at the other people who fell for a scam. You've never done anything stupid, right?

N1ghtstalker · Jun 12, 2008, 10:11 AM // 10:11

if you're stupid enough to drop your stuff you earn it
sometimes i like dropping stuff on the ground and annoy ppl with it
but that's when they're like 2 aggro's away from me lmao

Paul thy god · Jun 12, 2008, 10:44 AM // 10:44

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Originally Posted by Aussie Boy

Because people (New people to GW) don't know about this
the rest are just plain greedy and out for what they can get.
I once was selling something about 4 or 5 months ago and this guy asked to go outside for me to drop it etc etc.
I played along for a laugh and at the time dropped a chitten frag and boom he took it and
and was gone.
I was laughing so hard when he PMed me saying he was going to report me
for scamming "him" if i didn't give the proper item to him.
I said go ahead mate and report me then. LOL

Ah yes good times good times, apparently i scammed some guy because he put up 36k instead of 35k or something like that and i took it without knowing, but the worst ones are people who offer nothing and click accept in a desperate attempt to trick you.

Chthon · Jun 23, 2008, 04:34 AM // 04:34

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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

Does anyone have any suggestions for the this drop item function in particular that would help reduce the number of scams?

For example, and I'm just fielding some ideas for general consideration:

* A pop up notification, asking players if they really want to drop their item(s)
* Change it so that players must give explicit permission for another player to pick up their dropped item, and display a pop up notification asking the player whether they want to allow another player to pick up their dropped item(s).
* A timer which would prevent another player from picking up dropped item(s) until time ran out
* Remove the drop item feature altogether (very drastic)
* Something else?

I'd go with a "Do really really want to do that? There's no good reason to drop things on the ground and other people can pick them up" pop-up with a "don't show this message again" option. That way unwise players get at least one more warning, and players who are wise to that trick only get annoyed once.

FrAnt1c² · Aug 06, 2008, 09:28 AM // 09:28

happened 15 minutes ago, was quite funny though... If you want I can post his IGN...

Pleikki · Aug 06, 2008, 09:41 AM // 09:41

awww. frantic, you should have falled on that trick, you know ppl try make their living.. jk its hilarious